Firstly i think we should add as few "machines" as possible so as you have said we wouldn't turn into something like Technic or Tekkit.
2nd i think ores and metals should be processed in multiple phases, for example +Get the ore block by breaking the ore block. +An user will have a custom tool used to remove all the stone in the ore block and turn it into metal dust or pieces (there would be an overlay when using the item that show how much percentage the 1st processing has gone through) +(Optional) another user having another kind of tool will compress the dust/pieces into metal/ore clump, add another overlay here +And finally smelt it into the final iron/gold/diamond/redstone/lapis/glowstone
As for 'machines' I'm using that term very loosely. I don't really want any machines, what I meant is things like forge, bellows, quenching bucket, stuff like that.
Also, I am with you on the idea of what you suggested, but I would like it to try to mirror more closely how people actually process ore and gems.
I'll do some research today, to see if we can all agree on a process for each of these minerals that seems realistic, while still being fun. (Also, remember that it will be very simple in Phase 1. In Phase 2 is where we will add many steps.)
Ok, so, a little research shows that it is super, crazy complicated. We will get into that in phase 2. I had a couple of ideas of things we could do that would make it interesting in phase 1, but still resemble real life.
So, with the metal ores: iron and gold, we should make some kind of new tool, like a hammer. Using the hammer on the ore block crushes it up into pure ore. Pure ore put into a ceramic (clay bowl), then cooked to make the ingot.
Diamond, lapis, and redstone start the same way, by crushing with a hammer, but then has to be put into a screen, and used in water to separate the rock from the mineral.
(We could also do the screen for the metals, too, actually.)
1) Get ore 2) Put ore on table and smash it with a hammer 3) Pick out the bits of ore from the bits of stone 4) Put all the leftovers into a screen, and use water separation to wash away the stone. 5) Put bits of ore into a clay bowl. 6) Put bowl into forge. 7) Pump bellows to get forge hot enough. 8) Use tongs to pull out clay bowl. 9) Use dousing bucket to temper and cool ingot. 10) Competed iron ingot!
That will work for all metals. redstone, coal, lapis, and diamonds I think would be slightly different. You take the ore, and use say, a chisel? in a crafting table, and get the completed item.
Anyone else have any other suggestions? Remember, this is a sneak peak of what it will be like for phase 2, so don't get crazy. We'll have plenty opportunity to make it more complicated then.
Well, we don't want to use any machines. How would you propose the crusher device work?
But anyway, Will had a great idea where the table would be like a sort of crafting table, and when you put the ore in it, it showed up on the top. Then, you use the hammer and 'mine' it, into chunks.
As for the water separation, that will definitely be in phase 2, but we don't want to get it too complicated in phase 1, this is just for a taste of what will come in phase 2.
ok. so we dont want a maschine.
Do you know pixelmon mod for minecraft ? they added a anvil where you can put special things on. than you have to hit that anvil with a hammer and it changes! we could use something simmilar.
this would be a perfect solution for this part.
1) Get ore 2) Put ore on anvil and smash it with a hammer (you get [iron]Ore trash 3) Pick out the bits of ore from the bits of stone (maybe with water ?!) 4) use oven to heat pieces.Pump bellows to get forge hot enough. 5) Put bits of ore on anvil. hit it with hammer again till its one piece of iron. 6) put one piece gain in oven .Pump bellows to get forge hot enough. 7) shape it to ingot with hammer/or special tool 8) Use dousing bucket to temper and cool ingot. 9) Competed iron ingot!
Post by robogabe (robogman) on Jul 4, 2013 14:20:59 GMT -5
oh, well i would just like to add something extra... if i could add something fake, or even real (in case of real, i would research it) i would like to, even if its just blocks that you can craft to save space, or as an extra building option, ill take it